Fasting Space

I'm Doctor Z. If you're new.

So good to be with you.

Fasting space and opportunity
to come together around a process.

Simple fasting.

A very thoughtful, gentle,
long term, sustainable approach to.

Fasting.

I'll tell you, as a primary care doctor.

Fasting. Such a gift came to my life.

Both personally helped me
get in good shape

and been a joy to share
with people over the years.

Marie is here. Hello!

Good morning was away last week.

Many videos to catch up on.

Hey, you are so kind.

Some interesting stuff.

While you were gone,
I hooked up a continuous glucose monitor.

I still got a few days left on that.

I've been running some personal
experiments

on foods that I eat.

And then yesterday I did a live streaming
where I, I linked up my phone

right into the broadcast,
and we watched my blood sugar live

while I drank a soda, something
I am loathe to do,

but I thought,
you know, for science, okay.

For science.

And we watch my blood sugar
go all the way up.

I think it was like

186 was the top, which was fascinating
because that was that's the same place

it goes up to when I eat a plain
bowl of oatmeal and fruit.

And so I am still getting my mind
around some of that.

But I put, the a video

out of my experience
for different oatmeal tests.

Check that out.

Hope you are doing well.

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Connect around a little fasting space.

Fasting I like
I like to say it's nothing.

It's.

It's like the absence of anything,
but it's like the

the nothing that's a thing, you know,
because in the middle of.

A culture that is always telling us
that we have to consume all the time

to have something that is like,
it's like matter and antimatter,

you know, it's like the total inverse.

You can sit here, grab a coffee,
we can hang out, build some community.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

A great thing to do.

So, look at the title of this.

Trees take time to grow.

Do you remember
there was a commercial once?

I don't know if it was what it was,
but it had Captain Obvious.

Do you remember?

Captain Obvious make all these, like,
ridiculously obvious.

Statements.

I was kind of laughing at myself
about this title, but on Sunday

in the afternoon,
like my whole family was off doing.

I don't even know what,
working on different things.

And so I just kind of
had the house to myself.

I sat out in the backyard
in this beautiful autumn Wisconsin

afternoon, watched the breeze
flowing through the trees,

and, had kind of a,
you know, a natural meditation.

Not not really
just closing your eyes and sitting there,

but just being present in the world,
you know?

And I find especially

sitting by trees, I often just personally,

I love reflecting on a tree,
trees, the forest, being out in the world.

And as I was sitting there watching

like the last beautiful red leaves
on this tree, I was looking at this tree

because I planted it with my dad shortly
after we moved into this house.

And, you know, it's been 13 years,
you know,

and so I just thinking
about watching this tree grow up.

Now, the tree is taller than the house,
you know, you know,

and just watching it
13 years to, to grow into this huge thing

now that is providing this shade
in these beautiful leaves.

And, you know,
I got in a very contemplated space

about it and then, of course.

Connecting in and thinking,
I, I planted that tree

right around the time
that my second son was born.

And now he's
just about taller than me now.

And so now
the tree is taller than the house.

So we,
we see the passing of time in this space.

And so, like, this tree helping to bring,

A lot of time of reflection

to me on Sunday and continuing,
I would say.

So thirst
thought I would bring this concept to us

since I thought it was a beautiful space.

Reminded me of a passage from my favorite

mini book, which I love to share.

I probably should have made a playlist
of all the times

I use this book,
but now there are there lost in there.

Maybe we can dig some of them out.

But as I was thinking about trees
wisdom from a tree,

what can we learn about patience and time?

And this is something
I really want to give to our,

you know, weight loss and health space,
which is that

we're in the middle of this culture
that is so much pressure always on us

need to accomplish our goal yesterday,
you know, and we're already behind today.

Oh, man.

What was that? Where did that come from?

I read that passage from some book
we've been looking at.

It's like the mom was calling her son.

She was like, start worrying.

Details to follow.

It's like we're already behind.

I say, no, no, no no no no no no.

Let's just take a deep breath, okay?

We got space. Like,
this is what I'm going to say.

Trees take time to grow.

We are here in life like
we have a lot of time at our disposal.

We say even if we feel like we don't.

You know, it's like even in this day,

you know, we can take a little bit,

try to remember what we were saying
yesterday about all

we got a limited number of slots
in our mind,

kind of our Ram, you know,
to turn it into a computer analogy

only so much short term space
we can fill up in.

So many thoughts are filling our mind,
so many things vying for our attention.

Tree is patient. We can learn from this.

You say tree doesn't have a mind
okay, that we know of like we do.

Okay.

But let's just lean into the analogy
a little bit.

You know, tree is existing in the world.

It's going through a process
slow and steady.

There is a 1% better every day.

The tree is growing
and before you know it here, look at this.

And now it's bigger than the house.

Hey, welcome.

I have to zoom in.

Your name is so huge.

Liberty.

A liberty for 20 will say.

Really great to have you here.

I'm in a hurry to get things done.

Rush, rush until I have no fun.

All we gotta do is live and die.

But I'm in a hurry and I don't know why.

Hey, thank you for the lyrics, Alabama.

Okay. So thinking of this vibe, right?

Things take time.

Tree is not impatient.

Tree goes through a process.

And then over time, it blooms and grows.

And you can find I've done it.

There's 100 YouTube channels like type
it in

lose weight fast, do these things.

And in a certain space,

if you want to lose weight fast,

fasting, okay, is a path
that could potentially get you there.

We were reviewing over

the last couple weeks people who saying
lean into fasting so hard.

And and why take two years
to accomplish something

or longer
when you could do it in six weeks?

And of course, the answer to that
is that if you stress yourself out

and push yourself
beyond something that you enjoy,

you'll hate it
and you won't stick with it.

And you want something
that is sustainable, like a tree.

Like the tree
is just going through its natural process,

and it grows into something
beautiful over time.

And I want fasting as a part
of every other healthy

thing our exercise practices,
our mindfulness practices.

Choosing the healthiest food
okay, fasting is just one component of it.

One potential choice or option
that's available, but not even necessary.

I would say see, nothing hyped,
but it's just an offering.

That's what I say.

It's just an opening that is there for us
if we want or need it,

and then that practice,
from my perspective,

instead of jumping straight
into alternate daily fasting

or some extended fasting,
that is very intense

because someone has the mindset to do it
and you can do it.

It's like it's a personal choice.

But I say, why the rush?

You know,
Liberty says everybody is in such a rush.

We have to clear our minds
from the nonsense and focus

on what actually matters.

Beautiful summary of it.

This is exactly what I want to do
basically every day of my life.

I want it to be this.

Let's focus on what really matters.

Clear out the distractions.

That's why most of the time I try to have
the mindset of not watching news.

Okay, I, I, in my own,
you know, personal existence.

I've gone through many years
of just consuming huge volumes of news,

all the information coming in,

which, has a lot of negatives to it.

Another type of consumption. Right.

Think of our digital fasting video
I put out.

It's like human being not meant to know
everything that is happening

everywhere on the planet,
and all the negative and all the things,

and especially if we aren't really good
with ourself.

You know, I think about all the years
I spent where I really wasn't healthy

and I was becoming more unhealthy
and developing all kinds of bad habits

to deal with it, instead of stopping
the flow of negativity in for a while,

working on building some inner
strength, peace, and contentment.

The things
think about how externally focused we are.

Like we don't even realize sometimes.

Like
we got some difficult knots to untie here.

And, you know, think of the focus
that we can have right here

in our own sphere of influence,
with our friends

and our family and our own self first,
and then flow out.

And this is what I want.

I don't I'm not a believer.

Ignorance is bliss.

We we need to exist in the world.

I want people really
to make powerful change in the world.

But I just say that change starts
with our self.

Or try to change ourself
and let it flow out.

Okay, I'm trying to get to this beautiful
little passage.

I was sitting there thinking of the tree
and these beautiful thoughts on the tree,

and how we want to get ourselves
into a process of growing,

blooming, blossoming into something,
you know, bigger than we expected.

It's hard
when you're planting a little tree.

When we planted this tree, it's four

feet tall, you know, and now it's
whatever it is, 40ft tall.

You know,
you don't think of it as this huge thing.

This is what we want
our health to be. Though.

I was like, didn't wasn't there a little
passage about a tree in my little book?

Here it is. Listen to this.

This is a, unattributed Chinese proverb.

If you want one year of prosperity,
plant corn.

If you want ten years of prosperity,
grow trees.

If you want 100 years of
prosperity, educate people.

That's the little quote.

And I love it. I just love it.

I'll take it.

Ten years of prosperity with the trees

that is dialing us in in the middle

and then opening our mind to so many,
you know, thoughts with that?

How about 100 years of prosperity?

Think of the session
we did the other week where you were here

for it, the changing world order.

I read into that history book.

Maybe that is when Liberty came in
with us here,

and I love that, you know, getting back

into some deep cycles there, 100 year
cycle, thinking of education.

That's one of the really big
things that he dove in on that book.

Like how do you create prosperity?

What's the upswing of the cycle?

He got into that education
and learning and and devoting ourselves,

like you're saying here,
focusing on what actually matters.

You know,
a lot of things that we saw in that cycle.

Now, what what leads to the
decline of civilizations,

the same thing that lives leads to decline
in our personal life or health.

Many times.

Do you think it's fair to say
we've become complacent with things?

We stop focusing on what really matters.

We let things slide, right?

You can see that in the big picture
that's happened.

We start lacking for purpose, you know,
how do we move forward?

How do you break out of a cycle like that?

How do you start a new cycle upswing,
a hundred years of prosperity?

Bring that into our own life,

you know, is say whatever it is,
say we're all of us here.

If some great we don't knock going
to be around for 100 years, you know.

But in our own personal life,
whatever time we're blessed

with in this space,
how do we fill that with flourishing?

How do we take the best mindset
as possible to pass

on to the next generation in people,
so that we can build

an entire culture of flourishing,
you know?

Think about the mindset
that some cultures have had.

You know, as I have talked with
indigenous leaders here in Wisconsin,

you know, the the mindset,
it's like seven generations.

You know, there's like,
how do we think so deep?

How do we take care of a place
so that our great, great, great,

great great grandchildren
are just flourishing in this space?

To me,
this is a mindset that a tree shows us.

This is what I'm saying.

Tree takes time.

Tree actually going to be around.

You know, if you had back on the channel
in the archives a couple of years ago,

it must have been in the Hunger Series.

I got a Hunger series.

I filmed a video.

Let's see if we can find it.

But it wasn't very it wasn't necessarily
very good from a video

standpoint because I was just learning
how to use the camera.

Not that I still am just learning
how to use it, but,

I didn't have it focused,
so I, I sat down by this big tree

out at my parents
place on their property.

There's this tree.

There's like 300, 350 years old.

You know,

I was talking about, like, there's a tree
that is going through a process

like this tree was was still huge before
there was a United States,

you know, and it was providing
shade to people.

And like, that is just a huge perspective.

But I kind of rambled on
and I was out of focus.

And, so I think I did, I maybe take it
even off of the playlist.

I was like, I don't know that
I want people to have this

be the first thing that they see.

Who is this guy? All fuzzy.

Somewhere in here.

Weight loss wisdom from the woods.

There it is. June 8th, 2024.

getting out by this huge tree.

I was talking in that video
some more about it.

That's what I was.

I grew up in a small town
in northern Wisconsin, just a few miles

away from reservation.

Had a number of opportunities
growing up to participate

in some indigenous ceremonies,
learn about the culture

that was here before it was colonized.

Really fascinating.

Really fascinating experiences

trying to dive into some deep

wisdom of people
who are connected into a place.

We're trying to steward it
for a long term prosperity

that connects into what
I see with this mindset.

That's the big thing, too.

I was thinking of all this flowing
in these big cycles of life.

We are here in a space

good to be, I think, aware of these things
but then not overwhelmed by them.

Create of nuff, of a bubble, of a space
where we see,

no matter what is happening
externally out here.

How do we cultivate the space
or our cycle?

We are creating the rise.

That's what he called it.

In that book, we are creating an up cycle.

Maybe that is countercultural,
maybe that is swimming against the stream.

Whether it is or it isn't,

maybe even just trying to forget about
whether it is or it isn't.

We don't have to have success the way
anyone else defines it.

We can just look to our own little space
here, create a way of being.

That's what I say. That's what I want.

What is the way of being.

Where we're flowing through the life,
throwing through, flowing

through our days.

And we feel like this is how I want to be.

This is how I want to use my energy.

These are the decisions
that are honoring the person that I am.

The second part of this, you know, or the
third part, 100 years of prosperity idea.

Educate people.

We say, well, let's educate ourselves.

Let's try to learn, you know,
let's learn the most that we can.

That's why I'm doing this.

You know, it's like just learning.

It's one thing to know concepts, you know,

but to experience them on a deeper level,

I have found to be very profound.

I took my little video of.

The first week of sensor experiments,
chopped it

into one little short
for the shorts feed,

where I just compare one oatmeal
without the coconut oil, one with it.

And it's interesting.

Amazingly, you know,
YouTube is an interesting place.

You know, say 600 people watch a short,
but it's like,

is that really meaningful that I can see
it's not like many people really engage.

One person left a comment.

They said, you know, yes,
crush the blood sugar, but probably spiked

the triglycerides and I would
I would just love to sit down.

I left an inviting comment
or a response to them.

I appreciate engagement and discussion.

I just think that this is not a practical,
practical thought.

That's what I tried to say
from my vantage point.

We are in a society that I described
were just drowning in blood sugar.

You know, this is the,
the basically the state that we are in,

you know, just drinking one soda yesterday
I felt bad doing it.

I'd like afterward, like
it just did not feel good in the being.

Even this morning,
I didn't feel quite as good.

I was like, that was like a metabolic,
you know, bomb going off.

And it's just not the thing that,
I encourage anyone to do.

So it's a very interesting space
to think about.

You know,

blood sugar went up with the same
as a oatmeal with an apple and a banana.

But like, the health experience
is just nowhere in the same.

So taking that idea,
it's like, well, what does a blood

sugar can be very helpful,
but we've got to look at it in a,

a whole bigger context for sure.

But,
when I responded to this person, is that.

Yes. Triglycerides
I mean important, but like.

It'd be a pretty good switch
if it were true

that eating a little bit of coconut oil
before a oatmeal

raised triglycerides a bit, I'd
just say it's a pretty good trade.

That's what I said.

A pretty good.

Switch to make.

But what I think is more likely the case
is that something that helps you

to feel more satisfied,
to actually eat less,

to open up a fasting space
where you're actually able

to flow through a situation
without eating so much,

bringing the total calories

for the day down with,
you know, 200 calories of a coconut oil.

With that.

If I were a betting person,
which I don't want to be, you know,

I would wager that someone's triglycerides
probably better

because, you know, the pathway
of dealing with extra blood

sugar
actually can flow into triglycerides.

And so many times with high blood sugar,
you see the highest triglycerides.

And, so I'm going to take the under

on the wager with this person.

So there you go.

Trees take time to grow.

Our health process can take time

to flow, through it.

And this is okay.

Fasting to me is an exercise in patience
in general in the short term.

Right?

So, like, say,

I'd really like to eat my next meal now,
but now we're not going to do it.

And don't
we wish that we were there already?

But don't we wish you know,
we don't want to wish our life away.

And so isn't this a training program
and exercise

in building strength
and patience that can be within a day?

This can give us a pattern
for the rest of our life.

It's like a tree is patient.

It's like I'm practicing fasting, flowing
through a space, not consuming anything.

And see, this is just like mirroring
a natural cycle.

Look what's happening now. It's autumn.

The leaves are coming down.

I always say
this is like sleeping for the tree.

It's like the start of the fasting space.

Like we go to bed, we're not eating.

We're resting into the energy
and the roots of the tree.

It's just stored down
there. Trees still alive.

But it's resting.
It's hunkered down, right.

Spring is like the trees waking up.

It starts working.

It's like we wake up.
Maybe we don't eat right away.

We're using the internal energy. Right?

And it's not till the summer, you know.

Or the late spring.
The leaves have been built.

Now the energy is coming in
now, the trees eating right.

And so it's like this is a natural cycle
to flow through.

And we can sit by a tree
and we can feel connected to this and see

parallels between eating and fasting
like a tree through the season's.

And to me,
a thought like this is a type of thing

that helps me to feel grounded,
that helps me to feel purpose in a place

like realize I'm connected here
and this process is valuable.

You know, this is helping me.

Feels good.

This is where I want fasting to come to.

I come into a thought like that to me,
which is a very natural,

beautiful thought,
helps me to feel calm and grounded.

I think it's true. I mean, it's a reality.

Feels good,

helps,
you know, to reframe the experience.

If you come to fasting,
like I've shared on the channel,

first times that I came to it, I said,
whoa, like I would not want to do that.

Like that's the opposite of what I do.

I eat all the time because I want to keep
my metabolism going.

Like when you have that understanding.

So I like this thing.

Like then we got some education.

We realize
that's not always completely true.

Okay.

And actually giving some space,
just like smothering the fire

seems like for always putting more on it,
we can be smothering it.

Sometimes we need to actually remove,

you know, take a log out
and all of a sudden the air can flow in

and the fire can breathe.

And then it is going,
it's like our metabolism needs some space

sometimes, right.

So it can breathe, fan the flames
of the metabolism, get the energy flowing.

This is what we're trying to do in a space
both for our feeling of energy,

vitality,
that energy buffer we're trying to build.

So we have energy for life
also in a space,

if we're trying to lose weight,
we're trying to create an environment,

stop the flow of energy
coming in, empower ourself,

realize
that the energy is present in the body.

What are the practices
that and it opening up space

so that, you know, the body doesn't
stop, right?

Stop eating.

It's not like, oh, we stopped eating
and now an hour later, there's no energy.

No energy is there?

So maybe we aren't practiced in using it.

That's why we want to be gentle.

Just like you're gentle
when you start lifting weights, you don't.

If you have never lifted a weight
and you go into a gym and you try to

pick up some huge things like,
oh, you're gonna you could hurt yourself.

You get crushed, you know.

And come in with thoughtful, grab
some smaller weights.

Maybe you just do some body weight stuff.

You go say go through the motions,
making sure even our range of motion,

like you don't go straight to a deadlift
and try to lift this huge

weight off the ground.
Can you even touch your toes?

Can you stretch down there?

You know, start allowing the body

to open up the ability
and build the strength.

Works in the athletic space,
works in the fasting space.

Approach
something that seems intimidating.

Approach it in a thoughtful
and gentle fashion, and all of a sudden

it's like, oh, I did a little bit of that
and it was okay.

Is it? Does it feel like a deep breath?

And then maybe a little bit
more down the road?

And it doesn't have to be linear, right.

These things can flow just like we said.

Seasons flow, energy flowing.

We can lean into a fasting space
for a while

and we can lean back out of it,
trying to find a balance of the practice.

I love this motion.

Isn't this how trees sway in the wind?

They're saying the other day

that like the trees
that get broken in the storm,

are the most rigid,
the trees that are flexible,

the ones that can adapt to the storm,
let it flow through the ones that stay.

We definitely want to be like that, trying
to navigate our path.

Long term health.

Sometimes there's going to be storms
right in life.

Gonna be storms coming in life.

And if we are a tree
or we're trying to be like it,

say we want to be able to move in the wind
like that, and the storm blows

and we bend
without breaking in a fasting process.

When it is approached from the way that so
many people approach it rigid, dogmatic.

Oh, I do OMD now never can go back.

People use words like cheat days.

They're like they're bringing judgment
and guilt on themselves.

I'm just like, oh my gosh.

Like we gotta like way pull back on that.

It's like we've taken
the idea in society is so rigid, like you.

Some people say like, you have to eat
three times a day, every day.

See, that's a rigid thing.

And then some people turn it up more.

So people say, eat six small meals a day,
people eating all the time.

And that can be very rigid.

You can turn a fasting process
into something also so rigid.

I'm just a person who only,
does this now, right?

When the reality is that,
different days are different,

you know, and we have different needs.

There's different types of days.

I know from my own personal self,
some days I really feel like

leaning into a fasting space,
clearing that food out.

And that's when the energy flows.
And I love it.

And some days I certainly don't,
you know, and I would say

as I gain a lot of skill with fasting,
you know, it's been like 12,

been 12 years, ten, 11,
I don't know, we could figure it out.

Now I'm in the space like,
I, I don't want to lose any more weight.

I've been on a thing.

I've been lifting some weights, you know,

because I lost weight during
when I was sick with lying in the summer.

It was like, it's
like I want to put some weight back on.

It's like.

So I do less fasting, right?

But but then I miss it too, you know?

So it's like, you know, so we just flow
in there seasons for the thing.

You know,

I had put on before the summer, remember,
I had put on some weight over the winter.

I hit fasting really hard in the spring.

Leaned into it. Super exercise, you know.

Then I have a different season.

Couldn't do it
so much bringing everything to me.

It's just another process
to bring everything into balance.

Hey, I love this.

I don't do cheat days,
just nourish the body.

Hey, I love that
bring nourishment to the body.

Amid is perfectly doable for me.

I think eating three times
a day is absurd.

Feels like a lot of food.

But I do love cooking.

Hey, it's all a balance.

There are things that are right
for every person you know.

There are people
who, eat three times a day

and they've got the food dialed in
and they've got the exercise dialed in.

And, you know, in their life
it can be the right thing.

And so there's no one size fits all.

Thing for everybody.

But I, I will say,

you know, we just have such a mindset
that three has to be the number.

And I just say, well,
some people resonate a lot more with two,

and some people resonate
a lot more with one.

And I know quite a few people
who have been eating one meal a day

for years and years and years, and it just
it served them very well.

And like that's the number
that brings things into balance.

But even then, like people who find that
as a baseline, it doesn't have to be

that every day friends and family in town,
you go out for breakfast.

If that's the thing, it can change.

Have two meals that day.

You can have three still, but then okay,

it's like the exception
that proves the rule.

How do we flow back into a space?

What works in the long term
and see this is the intuitive part,

the flexibility that we can have
kind of the baseline level.

Like I like to say the template day.

What is the thing
that is like the solid foundation

we can return to,
like the roots of the tree, you know?

And then we can flow with it.

I like this, I feel like
it is all about portion control,

which was in the past,
a huge thing for me to fix.

Yeah, it's a huge thing in the mix.

It's a huge thing in the mix for a lot of
people who struggle with that.

You know, sometimes fasting is the thing
that just say, take,

take that off the table.

So I was talking to a patient
the other day.

Like what
the thing the portion control is hard

and so like but if I'm fasting
I can just flow with out of it.

I don't even have to do it.

And then actually many people experience
this, that it's like the fasting.

Once you get used to it,
it's actually hunger is less

like you can experience that
because when we're eating all the time,

we got the messages

coming to the body like digestive system
got to be running all the time.

This leads to a lot of issues
with acid reflux and other things.

I did the talk science
deep dives with doctor Z.

I've got the talk on acid reflux.

You know, fasting can be hugely beneficial
for breaking out of that cycle.

Check that out if you have that.

And then here we're getting
into a very interesting space.

I found the talk yesterday.

I was struggling to find the talk.

It was on fasting induced overeating.

And so here is a space.

Some people will go into a fasting space
and just really feel like,

oh, this is calming the hunger down.

Other people have the experience
when they fast

that then when they start eating
that it's harder to control the eating.

And that's
where we get into this portion control.

So I did this
talk fasting induced overeating.

I had my science playlist was mixed up.

Now I've got it better organized.

And so you'll find that a couple videos
in understand and avoid.

That's what I said for for fasting
induced overeating.

Understand why and how it can happen.

We take a look at some of the research
so that we can avoid having an experience

like that, because portion control is,
very important.

I've run into people where they,

they dial in very,
very hard on the fasting.

Big fasting saves
what they feel is hard for them to do.

But then when they eat, they
they are eating a massive meal

and then they're not having the success
that they want.

You know,
if if you're having 1800 calories in a day

and you say, I'm like, having trouble
losing weight,

then we but we're eating
six small meals a day

and it's like three, three, three, three,
three, three all during the day.

300 calories
coming in in these things, say, but now we

switch to eating one meal a day.

I've seen people do this, but then they're
eating like 2000 calories in this meal.

Okay, huge meal.

And they say, But I'm fasting, okay.

They're very fascinating area to get into.

People who are critical of fasting

in the medical community
that I have interacted with say,

well, fasting is only a tool
to help you eat less.

And then the implication

or the follow on is like, therefore,
why would you ever do it?

Because you can just eat less
without having to fast,

and then you can keep eating.

And you know, I usually said,
I don't care if fasting is is only a tool

because it helps you eat less
because it's not exactly easy to eat less.

You know, my experience and the experience
of at least many people,

maybe it's not everybody,
but see, if you are a person

that actually eating less times, it's
actually easier to eat less.

It's like when I eat a little bit,
I'm like, well, where is the rest?

You know, because the body wants to eat
a meal, you know?

And so if we decrease the total number
of times, usually easier to eat less

unless it isn't okay,
and then we have to be thoughtful.

This is why there's no one size
fits all policy.

I do not want people to struggle
with overeating.

And if someone is experiencing that,
maybe I push people the other way.

Sometimes I've had
when I've had that situation, someone

doing a big fasting interval, but then
putting a huge portions into one thing.

I say maybe the fasting is too intense,
like if I don't want

it, driving you into
that space is clearly not working.

So maybe we do back it off a little bit.

I was like maybe one meal a day right now.

Too much for you
in this circumstance, in this season,

maybe we need to split that out
a little bit.

Training on the portion control.

There are many benefits to fasting

that are beyond
just getting less calories.

It's having hormonal impacts.

I'm trying to show some of that
with the blood sugar testing.

Okay.

But a huge part of it is the fact
and I don't argue with it.

There are people who will say, well,
we could eat more calories

as long as we have the fasting.

I just don't find that that works
for most people.

It's like to me that's like not the
definition of what fasting is in fasting.

If we're to try to precisely define
it as abstaining from a period

for a period of time from food. Right?

So it's just like a logical follow on that
if we are abstaining from food

we don't like, add
it back in on top of what we are having.

Right?

So it's like, no, we are subtracting that
and we want to keep everything else

the same.

Makes sense basically by definition,
do you see we're going to be getting less.

And so this is something
I really want people to dial in on.

As a concept.

We add in a fasting space
trying to improve by subtraction,

like taking a log out of the fire
if it's choked up so that the wind can

flow in and help the rest of it to ignite
burning through that energy.

This is like a big space to sink into,
especially anybody in a plateau phase.

You're struggling with a plateau phase.

It's like,

think really, okay, what's happening
in the fasting space, but really dial in

what is happening in the non
fasting space two and what is the portions

and what is the calories
and what are the macro components.

We can dial really in on that if needed.

Now like the other side of it,
a thing that I like about fasting

can be so simple.
You don't always have to do that.

And so as like a step one,
what if we can just step back

from all the complexity
and all the measuring and monitoring?

And this is like the way I really like
to start, like

less thinking, more flow state.

Absolutely.

But if someone is struggling in a place
we can really dial in

what's measured is managed.

That is true.

So we can really science it if need it.

After I eat,
I keep my body active and moving.

I don't get sleepy anymore
or feel lazy after meals.

Hey that's awesome I did that, you know,
in the video I showed just the difference

when I, I ate the oatmeal and sat around
and we just watched the blood sugar

go up versus
I ate the oatmeal and got on the bike.

And, you know,
you can really see the impact of it.

Probably want to do one.

I want to maybe I should do it tomorrow.

I make a little note.

I did one of the tests.

I did, you know, I was fasting for a day.

I was in ketosis
and an eight from that point,

and we still saw the blood sugar go up
pretty good, which is just one variable.

But I did find that very fascinating.

I do wonder if I get on a bike
and like, I'm biking for half an hour

and then eat it,
really have the muscles going.

What is the impact between the two?

I'm going to do some thinking about that
because my personal practice,

you know, I love
I love being active anytime.

But if I and certainly eating after meals,
we demonstrated,

you know, the impact on the blood sugar.

I know my personal favorite time
to exercise.

And my normal personal practice
is to exercise in the fasting state

and then eat kind of the inverse of it
because it just feels good.

You know, it feels good to not be lugging
around some stuff in my stomach.

And, you know, when we eat something,
then the blood is flowing here,

and then we got to get it back out to
how are the muscles?

But, you know, as I think about it,
that's like for intense exercise,

you know, just taking a walk
doesn't make such a big deal.

I mean, this is just this point.

Thank you for sharing that.

Incomparable, incomparable.

I can't even do it personally.

Like, you know, yesterday

I did the live session
where I in the afternoon, impromptu one.

We just watched the blood sugar,
drinking a soda.

But then I just felt bad.
Like it's just not a good feeling.

And I think I'm probably more sensitive
to it now after never doing it.

But I don't eat fast food anymore
under basically any circumstance.

Like, I always feel badly after I do it.

Like say I did it once this summer.

We were in Corbin, Kentucky after

we were driving home from our North
Carolina hiking trip.

And Corbin,
Kentucky is the home of the original KFC,

so they got basically a church of KFC.

It's just really something else.

It's like they have this statue
of Colonel Sanders and it's like.

It's like before he was the colonel.

He was a man, like across the wall.

I'm like, this is like a really wow.

It was intense.

But I was like, okay,
my family's here. Like, we should eat KFC.

So I'm like, how bad can it be?

So I like, ate some KFC.

And I was just like, you know, I felt
badly, like, I don't want to feel badly.

I got done eating this.

I'm like,
I would have rather just fasted, you know?

And so this is my strategy.

If I am traveling, if I'm on the road,
if I'm in a place where it's just, fast

food available, I won't eat it anymore,

I will just fast and I will, carry on.

You know, I was like,
just do something healthy for my body.

Fasting state.

We'll get some autophagy flowing,
and then the next time

I have better food available,
I will eat it.

Then that's my own personal strategy.

The last you know,

it had been a few years
before that I had the same sort of thing.

We were driving down to see some friends
in Saint Louis and it was bad weather.

And so we just, you know, I don't know.

And so all of a sudden we're
in, you know, the middle of nowhere

in rural Illinois
heading down and kids are hungry.

Everybody's hungry.
The only thing around was in Arby's.

So we stopped at an Arby's
and I was like, well, what the heck?

You know, I'm here.
It wouldn't it be nice to eat something?

So every time I've done it,
I've always regretted it.

So now I'm just just don't do it. Yeah.

So I appreciate that.

Hey. Awesome.

Fasting. About 30 hours.

Traveling home felt great.

Awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know, travel culture.

You know, there's just, you know,

what else do you do
if you're, you're traveling,

you're sitting in an airport,
you're stuck in a car.

It's like something to do, you know,
and you can get into a habit with it.

Isn't it nice to eat something?

Yes, and I certainly feel that.

But then the more cycles
I've been through, the more I'm like.

Also, it doesn't feel good
to just be sitting in some seat somewhere

and you can't move
and your stomach feels all gnarly.

And so, better actually to me
to sit in a fasting space

and even to feel a little hungry
because I've come to see, okay, hunger.

Pretty neutral and as as uncomfortable
as you say it could be.

Wouldn't it be nice to have that nice
feeling of fullness

when the only options are,
you know, fast food or junk food?

I would pick the hunger
over bloating and discomfort, you know?

And so if I'm stuck in a space
and I'm not happy about it

either, I was like,
I didn't really want to be fasting either,

but I don't want to be eating this than it
is, just more fuel in my mind.

Like to remember you should have packed
some more healthy backups.

You know, when I'm traveling.

You know, I try to bring just a a pack,
no matter what it is.

It's like a plan B,
I make some homemade beef jerky.

I bring some nuts and some dried fruit

and just some simple stuff
that doesn't have to be refrigerated.

And I keep it in the bottom of my bag
so that if I'm in a place and I'm like,

I don't have any healthy food options,
then I will just dive in on that

inexpensive, get some nourishment
in the body and move on.

If that's the thing.

So either backup food or fasting.

Much better.

Hey, this sounds great.

Quinoa, chickpea salsa salad.

And also lentils I love it.

Yeah, I eat a lot of stuff like this.

I really like that.

I'm gonna I'm filming a few more
things as I'm doing with a sensor.

I'm going to make a follow up
video on the sensor, and,

I've got a few things like that
on there, too.

I find things like that very helpful.

Blood sugar, staying
very low with a lot of these things.

So I'm happy to see it.

Trees take time to grow.

That was the thought of the day.

Loved the thinking and the discussion.

Thank you for being here with me.

Hope you have a beautiful day.

I look forward to being back with you
tomorrow.

Be well everybody.